Title/Topic: I'm no expert, but Susie is Source: SF Weekly Contributer: Jeffrey Herwatt Date: 07:34 PM Yesterday (The following is from the SF Weekly, a Straight Weekly free paper in San Francisco, to quote Nan Susie "didn't mince words did she! I must say I was a little taken aback by some of her anecdotes but ...", the words used to describe sexual organs can be considered "vulgar", please don't read is graphic terms offend you.) Background: Susie Bright is a Lesbian Sexpert, having published numerous book, and being one of the founders of On Our Backs. I'm No Sexpert But Susie Is by Nan Parks So I was having lunch with Kim Corsaro, the publisher of the San Francisco Bay Times (who took me to a charming little restaurant South of Market, as they say, and it was her treat even though I was the one who asked for a meeting with her, which was so nice! Thanks Kim!), and at the restaurant we ran into a friend of Kim's named Susie, who Kim told me later was just THE expert on lesbian sex and had even writ- ten books about it (which surprised me because she seemed so gracious and was there with her adorable little girl, and well just didn't seem like the "type" to be a sex expert, not that there's anything wrong with that, anyway!). So later it occurred to me that even though it's sort of an embarrassing subject, there ARE a few things I've sort of wondered about when it comes to lesbian sex, and of course all this would be too personal to ask my sister Carol, but Susie being an EXPERT on the subject, she must deal with it all the time and it wouldn't be at all embarrassing to ask HER questions, just like it's okay to go to the gynecologist once you get used to it. So then I was having coffee with Lois (who I can talk to about ANYTHING), and Lois was doing her imitation of the coffee commercial where the gals remember their trip to Paris and try and think of the name of their favorite waiter -- and then she noticed I wasn't paying attention (I was supposed to say "Jean Luc!" We do this every time we have coffee together), and I told her my idea, and she thought it was great, so we got out paper and made a list of questions about lesbian sex which will probably seem pretty silly to you folks (particularly you girls), but I'll tell you there are a lot of straight women out there who have a bit of curiosity, so anyway our list was as follows: Nan: When one of you is making love to the other one (whatever it is that is being done), why isn't the one who is doing "it" bored, because presumably (although I may be wrong) that person isn't actually having anything "interesting" done to her? Lois: Does "tribadism" really work? Is this a common lesbian sex practice? Can all women do it? (i.e. could women do it with guys?) (I had never heard of "tribadism" but Lois had read about it somewhere and Lois is a lot more "hip" than I am anyway and once even reached "climax" in a plane during a patch of turbulence by leaning against the armrest or something -- she tells everyone this story so I'm not breaching any confidences here.) Nan: Do lesbians ever "pretend" to be satisfied when they're not? And if so, can another lesbian - tell that her partner is not really "done" but is just pretending -- (I'm curious because Carol says lesbians NEVER pretend that, and anyway if they tried the other lesbian would ALWAYS be able to tell, and I know quite a few women on my side of the fence who do it all the time although I personally haven't since the early days of my marriage and Doug is such a great guy anyway so that if I'm not completely "in the mood" sometime. it's OK by him and his ego isn't bothered by it anyway!) Lois: Do you (Susie) think that a woman can be emotionally a lesbian but physically heterosexual? What could be done about that in your opinion? Nan: What happens, in theory let's say, if one gal makes love to another one, and the other one -- i.e., the one who was made love TO, is sort of "up in the clouds" afterwards -- then does the one that just made love have to wait around until the other one has recovered? What if she's not feeling "that way" by then? It doesn't seem fair! Lois: Do you (Susie) think that it's common for young women who are straight to experiment with lesbian sex -- even though they're straight and may go on to raise families, etc.? (I told Lois that I didn't think her questions were really SEXUAL and reminded her we were consulting a SEX expert, but she said these questions were about SEXUALITY, and said she was sure Susie knew all about such things and would have an interesting perspective, and plus she didn't have any questions about SEX ACTS except for the first one because she had never done that -- anyway!) Dear Nan: About Your Sister, Carol... I hardly have time anymore to answer personal letters, but after getting your call this evening, I figured if my three-year-old can watch Aladdin without blinking for the 19th time, I can give you a few quick thoughts before I tuck her in bed and begin my usual routine of all-night, wall-to-wall, damn-the-torpedoes lesbian love- making. I was interested in your questions about getting bored in bed, and faking it. I don't think particular sex acts are always the true barometer of whether you're having a good time. I've had my pussy . eaten and almost fallen asleep sometimes, when I wasn't "in the mood," as you say. I've also been so excited I could hardly breathe when I've brought my lover off with some slow and constant deliberations. When you give Doug, your husband, a blow-job, does he have to be actively touching you for you to get excited? I mean, you do go down on each other, right? Please get back to me on this. I am certainly guilty of lying flat on my back in the "DO ME" position, but I am not entirely made of estrogen, and neither are you. ... Of course lesbians fake it! We're dykey, not Betazoids. I've certainly pushed lovers away when things just weren't panning out and let them think otherwise. The truth can be cruel, and is frequently denied. Your sister Carol, who claims lesbians are exempt from this behavior, reminds me of a Carol I knew once -- wouldn't it be amazing if it were the same one? The Carol I knew was so busy keeping up a public relations program in bed that I had my doubts that she could ever let down her guard enough to have an uninhibited orgasm. She TOLD me when she came, but I didn't quite believe her, even though she pushed my hand away and gave a little faux gasp. I told her I didn't care whether she had come or not, I was still amusing myself f. I tied her hands to my four-poster bed (I'm looking at your photograph right now, comparing your manicure to hers -- it really is amazingly similar!), and put my most relentless vibrator on her clit. "Now don't come again, whatever you do," I told her. She bit into one of my down pillows, and when I saw the feathers come spewing out of her mouth, I very carefully unplugged and unbound her and sent her home in a cab. On another subject... well, of course tribadism works! Rub a dub dub any two in a tub can get it on with a little friction, or as your friend Lois discovered, even alone with a nice piece of frequent flier furniture. Again, I must ask, don't you ever slide up and down on Dougie Daddy's knee, just for fun? Get back to me on this, too; Now about this "emotional lesbian,- sexual straight girl" crap: A heterosexual woman can certainly develop a taste for the gay aesthetic and even a queer sense of humor. Most of the ones I know are die-hard feminists. But if your emotions have anything to do with your pussy, you cannot want one thing in your heart and crave another in your clit. Most women I know who say they feel this way are (a) bisexual and (b) have not had any uninhibited lesbian sex lately, if at all. Grease them up and send them to the next Jill-Off party. Lois' other question was about young women's sexual experiences. No one really knows how "common" it is for puberty-struck girls to have lesbian sex, but the term "experimental" is a rather heterosexist way to describe it. The first few years any person is sexually active, everything they do, with either sex, could be called "experimental." Or, you could call it living proof of something deeper. That same girl who played doctor in junior high may go on to a husband and family, and 20 years later meet an irresistible lesbian M.D. and run off to Fire Island with her. What kind of experiment do you call that'? I just have to ask you one more question about Carol. Maybe you could ask her and then let me know, discreetly of course. Next time you're having one of your famous sister-to-sister lunches, just lean over. real nonchalant-like, look her straight in the eye, and ask her, "Carol, honey, are you a butch bottom'?" Then check for feathers. Clits up! Susie "Sexpert" Bright Nan Replies: I just wanted to add a big Thank You! to Susie for taking the time to answer our questions since I'm sure she's really busy with her books and sex things and not to mention being a full-time Mom which I'll tell you can take a lot more energy than sex sometimes! -- at least for me -- but I guess I'm not in a position to say that for Susie, am I? Anyway Susie sure gave Lois and I something to think about and GOODNESS! she didn't mince words did she! I must say I was a little taken aback by some of her anecdotes but then I thought about what the guys at Doug's office would think and I got a little chuckle (Hi guys! Still reading?). So anyway Lois read it over and over again and then she sighed and she said, "You know Nan, no one has ever made feathers spew out of my mouth" in sort of a sad voice, and I told her to show the article to Ted -- why not! -- and she said Ted couldn't do feathers if his life depended on it, and then she asked if I was going to "get back" to Susie on those questions and I said they were a bit too personal for a response in print but maybe I'd ask her out for coffee sometime and Lois said PLEASE to invite her too because now it seems she's dying to hear more "stories" from Susie! And anyway, I asked Carol if she was the one in the feather story (because you never know) and she said of course not, and then I asked her if she was a "butch bottom" (whatever that means), and she turned red and told me that "Straight Talk" and I had "gone too far." Love, Nan