Date: Tue, 25 Jan 94 17:01:03 pst
Subject: The RRR is listening

More fun and games from the Conservative Christian List.  Maks
monitors Gaynet regularly and posts messages from Gaynet on Conchr-l.
It really irritates him to know that his list is being monitored too.
He claims to know everything there is to know about homosexuality.
Is there something your not telling us Maksie?  He also monitors the
Fight The Right list.  Why not tell Maks he is a great big hypocrite
by emailing him daily for the next couple of months at his private
email address: MKLINE@VDH.BITNET@PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU

>Many of you may be following the conversations of Dave Wagle and
>myself concerning my "hard stand" towards homosexuals.

>Curious enough today on Dr. Dobson, he's talking of marriage problems
>and even brought up WW II. The real theme of his sermon or
>story is ACCOUNT- ABILITY. Dr. Dobson says when you don't
>hold people accountable, you will NEVER get any respect.

>My "hard stand" is to hold homosexuals accountable to abstain and
>pray that God will remove the urge from them, even if this
>takes their whole life. Based on Dobson's comments, I STILL
>find this to be not only acceptable, but preferable.

>Yes, the homosexual "can't do it." They find themselves EXACTLY LIKE
>US, "But for the grace of God, so go I." I CAN'T do it without God,
>I CAN'T do it on my own. I MUST trust in God, in the prayers of my
>friends, and pray day in day out... And I'm not asking ANY more from
>them then Christ asks from us.

>If the homosexual does NOT want to be held accountable, they don't
>want Christ, they want some "good feeling" to cover the
>guilt they are feeling.  This is EXACTLY like the failed
>marriage where they don't love each other any more, and
>they feel trapped. Some Christians feel trapped with
>Christ, wanting "something better" but knowing it's a sin.
>Those people who yield to this are in sin. The homosexual
>who yields to homosexual lust is NO DIFFERENT than the
>married man that would just love to bed his secretary.

>The difference is that this married man does NOT demand rights that he
>CAN bed his secretary and not be kicked out of their "little
>love nest." He doesn't go out and protest, call people 4
>letter words because people don't agree with him. You are
>not likely to find him at a news conference with a banner
>that says "Jesus, protect me from your followers." or
>"Bring back the lions." You are NOT likely to find him
>petitioning the local school board DEMANDING to teach
>children HOW to commit adultery or trying to convince them
>they "One woman was never enough for me, I love them all."
>You are not likely to find him petitioning for rights that
>he can teach your Sunday School class and you can't stop
>him. You are not likely to find him tearing the numbers off
>a church, smashing buildings, calling gray haired women
>"b*tch" and other "not so nice" words, simply because they
>believe in a "Holy life."

>Now take the paragraph and insert your "favorite" sin. THAT is
>another reason that this sin, this PUSH to legitimize their
>sin, receives such TOUGH love in return. "NO!" can be a
>response from love as in "Don't touch that hot pan!"
>Granted, the lesson may actually be deeper seated if you
>just let them, but they could hurt or kill themselves if
>they were to pull a pot of boiling water down on
>themselves.  At 1 in 248 chance of getting HIV for a gay,
>ONE more time may well be THE time that takes their life.
>LOVE, God's word, says "NO!" and for good reason.

>Maks.